Gitmo West..Bagram Theater Internment Facility


There is an American Prison for terrorist that isn’t in Cuba. Its called Bagram Theater Internment Facility (btif). There aren’t any congressmen or women touring this facility. You will find very few reporters writing about it. Let me tell you a little about BTIF through the eyes of Eliza Griswold, a reporter with The New Republic:

Btif is currently home to about 650 detainees. Unlike the prison in Guantánamo, there aren’t congressional junkets regularly touring the facility, let alone any reporters. Inside one of the low-slung, pale concrete buildings, on the vast floor of what was once a machine shop, is a scene one former interrogator describes as a dungeon, full of “medieval sounds”–the dragging of leg shackles, shouts from military police. Most of its windows, initially installed by the Soviet army, are broken and boarded up. There are six large 60-foot-long cages ringed in coiled barbed wire where detainees are kept, 15 to 20 prisoners to a cage. Before the prisoners enter or leave these cages, they are transferred temporarily to cages large enough for only one prisoner called “sally ports,” which are encased in coils of concertina wire and reinforced with steel beams. On a level above the machine shop floor, there are isolation rooms walled in plywood with chicken-wire ceilings.

Doesn’t that make you proud to be an American? Come on people, why not? Could it be that you are embarrassed to be a part of such a heinous operation? Is it possible that being a part of such a barbaric institution is plain embarrassing, disgusting and abhorrent?? It is for me. We usually are proud to announce that we are the “gold standard” of internment and we follow the rule of law..only not at BTIF or Gitmo my dear reader. Come along with me and read the words of someone that has been there..someone that could walk out without a guard fucking you over.

Bagram is a 6.5-square-mile plot located on the vast, once-verdant Shomali plain and encircled by the snowy Panjshir mountains. After the Soviet invasion in the late ’70s, the Russians built a two-mile runway and airbase at Bagram. During the decades of civil war, the defunct base repeatedly switched between Taliban and Northern Alliance control. In late 2001, as it trounced the Taliban, the United States took possession of the base and outfitted its cavernous machine shop to detain captured combatants. Former prisoners and interrogators say that there were old Soviet signs written in Cyrillic still on the walls.

Oh Jesus Christ forgive me..don’t that make you feel warm and fuzzy? We, the governmental ‘we’, took over a former Soviet base. God bless those mutha fuckas for making it so complete for us..an airbase and all..did you notice the phrase “once-verdant”..do you know what that means? Ah hell, lets get the Webster’s version: Etymology: modification of Middle French verdoyant, from present participle of verdoyer to be green, from Old French verdoier, from verd, vert green, from Latin viridis, from virEre to be green
1 a : green in tint or color <verdant grass> b : green with growing plants <verdant fields>
I love it..green with growing plant..nolonger is it growing my dear reader..its dying..along with the inmates. But lets not get overwhelmed with that. Lets see what the place is actually like:

From the start, the processing of prisoners entailed some grisly practices. When Captain Carolyn Wood assumed control of the prison in the summer of 2002–she ran it until taking over Abu Ghraib a year later–interrogation tactics came to include beatings, anal violation with sharp objects, blows to the genitals, and “peroneal” strikes (an incapacitating blow to the leg with a baton, a knee, or a shin). We know about these tactics because an internal Army investigation into two prisoner deaths was obtained by The New York Times. These detainees–a 22-year-old taxi driver and the brother of a Taliban commander–were found dead and hanging from the wrists by shackles. A coroner’s report said the two men died after being subjected to dozens of peroneal strikes. According to the coroner’s report, the “pulpified” legs of one of the corpses looked as if they had “been run over by a bus.”

Ah yes..Carolyn Wood..a female that got medals for her valor..and treatment of terrorists. Wonderful woman..stellar bitch that she is..read this and tell me what a wonderful person she is:

It’s not that Bagram has entirely escaped scrutiny. Army investigators have recommended criminal charges for 27 alleged Bagram-based torturers. But, of these 27, only four soldiers have been sentenced to prison time–for no more than several months. The alleged abusers have evaded punishment largely with the help of, among others, Donald Rumsfeld, who approved a December 2002 memorandum that permitted the use of stripping, dogs, and stress positions in interrogations. In fact, many of the top brass who presided over Bagram have done more than escape punishment. Despite the many accounts of Captain Wood’s encouragement of torture–Amnesty International has called her a “torture architect”–she has received two Bronze Stars.

This woman got Two..count em two Bronze fucking stars. Can you believe it? Is this bullshit even on your radar? Do you think this bitch is touting this crap on a website? Is she proud of her accomplishments? Is she looking for a pat on the back for her heinous bullshit? I don’t know..but read this part of the article:

The secrecy shrouding the prison makes it hard to discern the precise composition of its occupants. But we do know that, last year, its population swelled by about 100 detainees, thanks to new U.S.-nato operations aimed at routing the resurgent Taliban. And even the Pentagon has implicitly conceded that the prison no longer serves its initial short-term purpose, changing its name from Bagram Collection Point to the Bagram Theater Internment Facility.Its GitmoWest folks..how else do you partition it? Why is this ok? Why do governments approve of this kind of treatment of ‘prisoners of war’? Where in the blue hell are the rules of engagement? Am I nuts? Am I out there? What makes these people different than all the rest of the individuals that dealt with an enemy of war, besides the fact that we have NO FUCKING CLUE WHO THE ENEMY IS in this new fresh hell? We cannot treat them all like the enemy because we DON’T fucking know for the love of God:

During this transformation, some of the worst abuses at Bagram, such as anal violations and beatings, have been curbed, according to former detainees, the Afghan Human Rights Commission, and Human Rights Watch. The Department of Defense claims that prisoners now gain an average of 15 pounds during their detention. And, several weeks ago, the first Afghan prisoners were transferred from Bagram into Afghan custody in the U.S.-built wing of the infamous Policharki prison. Lieutenant Colonel Todd Vician, a spokesman for the Department of Defense, tells me, “We have no desire to be the world’s jailer.”

But they are the worlds jailer, regardless of how they paint it..they can refute it for all their worth but the fact remains…WE are the worlds jailor..its sick..its friggin pathetic..and I can not give you any more pieces of the The New Republic article..you have to read it for yourself..but then..you will also be complicit..just like I am once you know the truth…and there is so much more, my dear reader..it will turn your stomach if you care about human beings that are treated like the scum of the earth, worse than dogs that run loose in a neighborhood..without a trial..without anything to prove their bad people..except the thoughts of someone who knows nothing but “they are ALL the enemy”. The only thing they all have in common: They are Muslim.

While delivering one wanted man into U.S. custody, Shah was himself arrested, hooded, shackled, and stripped. Soldiers taped his mouth shut, refusing to let him spit out the snuff he was chewing. For three days, his jailers in Bagram denied him food. All the while, Shah pleaded his innocence and reminded the Americans of his friendship with “Tony.” And, eventually, the Americans concluded that they had mistakenly identified the man as a Taliban official and released him. Despite all this, the U.S. military has continued to ask Shah for his help. “I have refused,” he told us. “When the Americans came, we thought we would be free. But, on the contrary, we have suffered.” Placing his elbows on the table, he hunched forward and cupped his hands around the now cold tea. “If the Americans don’t change their policies soon, neither we nor they will have a way out.”

Think of the horror that would infiltrate our minds if our soldiers were over-run..if they were treated as “these jailors” have treated other human beings.

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Posted on May 9, 2007, in Bagram, Gitmo West, Torture. Bookmark the permalink. 12 Comments.

  1. i am revolted. give her a star. makes sense in a world where bush gets a purple heart and tenet gets the medal of freedom.

  2. Is Bagram an all inclusive resort like Sandals or Club Med?Are lower shelf drinks and meals included?Everybody knows how hard it is to get your wallet out when you are in shackles

  3. I never thought I’d see the US commit the kinds of horrors, in our names, that it has in the last few years.

  4. I am officially in kick back mode. It’s not that I don’t care anymore. I think that if I put out there, a positive feeling that these people will all be served justice, then perhaps my vibe will be felt. 😉Hmmm. I also wonder if I am now desensitized to reading about abuse because I am so use to hearing about it. Damn, read that sentence again. That’s messed up when you become complacent when hearing or reading about abuse from our government…..

  5. Of all the things that the Bush Administration has done, torture is the one thing for which there can be no rationalization. It is wrong. It is downright evil. That so many Americans have tolerated it tells me that, collectively, this country is utterly bankrupt morally.

  6. I will never be desensitized to torture..especially when its done in OUR name. I want these bastards tried for crimes against humanity..every last one of them, from the Pres down to the grunt.

  7. “Hurry up cuz, Im hungry you know mom does it big on friday”
    “Im tryin, alot of cops out we gotta move slow plus were out late”
    “EXIT THE VEHICLE SLOWLY OR WE WILL KILL YOU!!”
    Pillow cases cover I and my cousins head, we're driven to an unkown location

    No phone calls made to My mother that waits
    No water, three days, no bread to break..
    I have no joy save to pray, as I lay prostrate before my god
    I ask his forgiveness for our captors and the lies they Believe
    We ask god to bring retribution against the leaders of these “Free-Men”

    A dim light cradles the high corner of a fear-laiden room
    Handcuffs dangle a chainlink ceiling, this place smells of a tomb
    Innocent and guilty son's of scarf covered wombs, are kept tight in this place
    Soldiers instilled with anger, show us the real United States

    Two full weeks no minute of sleep, they claim this isnt tortue
    Red cross comes they clean us up, they stop making us pose for,
    Horrible photos classed as classified, at least we do it in public,
    Release date comes im carryin guns i will lay to waste, any American face I see

    I've been turned into a demon,
    I've Contracted Post-tramatic stress syndrome
    From the torture by these so-called “Free-men”
    Broken battered and bruised shinbones
    my demons never at peace,
    Angry at all times no worry at what
    Now my demon has Laryngitis its itchin to speak
    Taliban, al qaeda, hamas, crip-blood
    Doesn't matter the name ill scream it,
    You wouldn't believe it.
    Callin us Terrorists cause what we speak After what we've seen Is suddenly believed in

    This is not about gitmo prison

    “Bagram air force base”
    “Bagram Theater Internment Facility”

  8. You people are all fucking retarted. There has not been one substantiated abuse claim since 2002.  These detainees get treated better than american prisoners.  There religious and cultural beliefs are not violated, and they are shown the evidence regarding thier capture upon arrival.  If you really believe that these are a bunch of poor farmers you are extremely ignorant, and should talk to a soldier whose has hit an IED or been a firefight and ask him how many farmers he came in contact with.  Just because a former detainee says he was innocent and abused while in captivity does not meant it is a true statement but by all means believe a fucking terrorist because there is no reason he would lie right? Quit believing the bullshit fed to you by ex-detainees and left wing nut jobs that don't know the first fucking thing about what's going on inside the facilities. 

  9. That fact that such one sided arrogance is propagated is a clear example of freedom of speech. A sick and undermining example but an example none the less. I do not dispute the fact that the 2002 deaths of two detainee's and all other abuse's prior are indeed that a fact. Miss Wood is horrible blunder in U.S Military leadership and agree whole heartedly that she doest deserve those stars. But the allegations after, in the wake of these atrocities, should be heard with the corrected as the U.S. has moved to correct it. You'll hear over and over of detainee abuse by “Big Brother” because it’s the drama you crave. And people will readily feed you and in turn you will feed them with a never ending “batshit crazy” dialogue. Nobody will mention the three full meals and snacks in between detainees receive everyday. Yes that’s right I said snacks. The recreation time they get to exercise. The cooperation of the U.S and International Committee of the Red Cross to allow conference via video telephone or face to face time with detainee's and their families. Hmm I can see faces with contorted lines above ones eyes. Because nobody wants to digest that maybe your is not so numb to the idea of being humane. You'll never hear about throwing urine and feces on guards by detainees. The everyday on slot of verbal garbage and threats that come from the cell and not the other way. The re-enactment of a detainee cutting off a head and then pointing directly at a guard. Or the bragging of a detainee on how many coalition force convoy's he has laid waste to by use of IED.

  10. You never hear of the strict rules every guard is to adhere by as to not rebut in violence, in either the physical are verbal. Instead, because they live in the wake of Abu Ghraib where they never served, they must stand silent and return only with constrained humanness. Because if not, that guard will fry in the media and be feed to the people like you. This same guard must escort this detainee to receive medical treatment consisting of wisdom teeth removal, physical therapy, malaria, tuberculosis, prosthetic limbs, pain killers to help them ween off of heroin, booster shots and Lasik eye surgery. That’s no miss type kids,Lasik fucking eye surgery. All while single mothers and fathers at home can't afford to take little Tim to the hospital because their broke. But poor little detainee picked a fight with an Apache helicopter on patrol and lost. Was later recued by a medvac helicopter and is now learning how to walk again with his brand new prosthetic leg paid for by the same mother and father back at home. You'll never hear shit about progress because it’s not in your appetite. You blow a horn of injustice. But the only injustice here is the one sided vomit that spews from misguided citizens like you, Liberal and Conservative. So I ask that when you decide to play vigilante you consider taking a bite of everything so that you may humbly, and I say this with all sincerity, un-Fuck yourself.

  11. FUCK I LOST ALL OF MY FACTS so now I'm gonna make it short and sweet:
    Those soldiers gave you every right and freedom you have today, so don't bash them while you sit here on your ass and bitch, they put their lives on the line for “YOU”.  They die so you can have freedom of speech.
    Those facilities:  Those inmates have every right an American does if not more.  Heads of these facilities will believe and inmate before a soldier and the soldier will be punished before all the facts are there. 
    Interrogations:  I've never seen anyone being treated so kindly with pizza, sweets, dairy queen, every right and regulation of theirs being observed while inside that interrogation room.  They are talked to politely and with translaters.
    Terrorists:  Someone who wants to kill and destroy people and places and don't care how many innocent people die.  That seems to be who most of you are sticking up for in this blog room.  Did you know if a riot breaks out you have to let it be until it gets out of hand.  Did you know that a inmate can throw piss and shit on you and not get into trouble?  Have you ever had to wipe someone elses shit out of your mouth and ear and nose because that person thought it would be funny?   Do you think it's fun to be spit on, hit, cursed at, and to see those who were suppose to be on your side take the side of your enemy?  Not many of you have had this opportunity. 
    Treated:  Top medical care, best food, sweets, rewards for work duties, gum, muffins, gatorade, bottled water, blankets, Qu'urans, books, bibles, prayer rugs, prayer caps, movies:  rambo, and various others that are combative, and then you name it and they get to see it, other than porn.  I saw a guy get a sist removed from his back, something that would have taken much paperwork and money for your average civilian YOU to get removed, no insurance, YOU can kiss you life good bye.
    ICRC:  group of nuetral people from redcross who come in and get to hand out paper and pens(which usually wind up as weapons against the troops)pamphlets with staples(be scare of a man that can do horrible things with a staple and not a gun or knife YOU will be amazed), they help out as mediators, so if inmates want something then they can together achieve in getting it(like video conferencing with family members) (American soldiers don't even get this)
    I SAID I'D KEEP IT SHORT IGUESS NOT, MAYBE I'LL POST MORE LATER WHO KNOWS LETS SEE WHAT RESPONSE ARRIVE DUE TO MY KNOWLEDGE AND FACTS, YES THIS IS 100% TRUTH AND FACTS OF SOMEONE WHO HAS SEEN IN FIRST PERSON……..

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