Oh wtf is this crap?

It’s almost mind-boggling how ignorant the extreme rightwing nutters are. 

I said almost. All these fuckwits have to fall back on is threatening violence and hurling racial and/or homophobic or gender-based epithets. How friggin pathetic is that?

I hope to hell the intelligent, centrist voter has had enough of this horseshit. It’s only going to get worse and the corporate media will continue to keep it in the news…this is a good thing of course.  Keep these fucking idiots front and center until November. Rachel’s take below:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32545640

The FBI is going to be very busy, if they aren’t already. These homegrown fuckwits have a very itchy, collective trigger finger. The violence has begun with the bricks through the windows of elected officials. The calls to violence are ringing loud with the help of Palin, Limpballs and Beck.

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About Dusty, hells most vocal bitch

I am a..brown Cali bitch that is quite the opinionated,political, pain-in-the-ass, in your face kinda girl that also loves baseball and music to a fault. Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.--Albert Einstein-*

Posted on March 24, 2010, in extreme rightwing ideology, rightwing haters. Bookmark the permalink. 61 Comments.

  1. There are no centrists. this country, for the most part, is composed of the right and the FAR right. It's killing us.

  2. Eddie…there has to be centrists m'dear…that's the swing voters and they made the difference when The Big O was elected.

  3. You know, it's been said that profanity is the result of a small mind trying to express itself forcefully. 

    It cracks me up that leftists decry violence, yet they tend to be some of the most violent 'protesters', historically. 

  4. Violence? Window smashing?

    How do you ignore leftists re-enacting Kristallnacht every time the World Trade Organization holds a conference?

    Were leftist war protesters in 2003 arrested with Molotov cocktails in their backpacks just trying to be prepared to help someone out of gas on the side of the road?

    “Far right” threats of violence vs. leftist acts of violence from Robespierre to the Holocaust. Hitler wasn't very nice about his left wing labor activism, you know.

    At least you have an appropriate name for your blog. 

  5. Brooke,
    Neither side is right to do it and to excuse one side because the other does something is like saying, “It's OK to rob a bank because he did.”

  6. Beamish,
    I'm not condoning it from either side, but it appears things may be going a little farther than window smashing and name-calling. There was a gas line severed at the house of Rep. Tom Perrielo's brother. That's fuckin' dangerous man.

    Oh, and I think Dustyhas an appropriate name for the blog too, because it's true.

  7. Well we saw the Republican Nazi Brownshirts and their Joseph Goebbels Propagandists {Rush, Beck, Hannity, etc…etc…} and the leaders in the House and Senate {Boner, Cantor, McConnel, et el…} finally incite the start of Kristallnacht right here in America.

    They will do more and more until they kill someone.  When that happens the Republican Fascist Nazi Party will deny any responcibility for it.  But then we already know they never take responcibility for anything they do.

    God Bless.

  8. “Republican Nazi Brownshirts?” 
     
    I'm pretty sure any respectable history book will show you that the historical Nazi Brownshirts were the most raucous of left-wing labor agitators and union thugs in Germany at the time, led by a coterie of militant homosexuals. The closest approxiamation to Brownshirts in American politics today would be SEIU goons pushing the Democratic Party to allow gays to openly serve in the military. 
     
    But, let's not let historical facts get in the way of a leftist's need to be the most imbecilic person in a room.

  9. There was a gas line severed at the house of Rep. Tom Perrielo's brother. That's fuckin' dangerous man. 

    There were Black Panther thugs with clubs and machetes intimidating voters at the polls in 2008 on behalf od Obama, subsequently let off the hook by Obama's Justice Department. The same Justice Department headed by former lawyers for terrorist detainees at Guantanamo Bay. All throughout the 2004, 2006, and 2008 election seasons, Republican candidate election headquarters were shot at and vandalized. Some were even set on fire.

    The history of left-wing tendencies towards violence and succoring those that employ violence (like Obama's buddy Bill Ayers) far outweighs anything ever conducted or advocated by the right-wing, even if you don't count left-wing genocidal maniacs like Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Hitler, Mussolini, Idi Amin, Fidel Castro, Che Guevara, et. al.

    So forgive me if I take the “right wingers inspired someone to cut some obscure Congressman's brother's gas line” mythos with a truckload of salt.



  10. Both sides accuse the other of destroying the Nation.  Difference here is that the Right managed to do some pretty serious damage during the last decade.  Maybe the Left will do just as bad (though it's hard to imagine how), but, hey Beamish, how about saving the virtiol until they actually do it? (cue comments about how the collapse was the Democrat's fault and a trillion dollars worth of War has made America safer!)
    Maybe it's time to ditch both sides and head down a third axis.

  11. You nutter rightwing extremists have yet to provide media documentation for anything you have claimed here. Unless and until you do..give it a fucking rest as it's bullshit and conjecture untill you do.

    Oh, and I simply love how you two think railing against the left somehow legitimizes what the rightwing nutters have done this week with all the hate and violence. Amazing!

  12. Hilarious. 

    Everything Beamish mentioned is correct. Had you paid attention in history class or even cursorily watched the news during the last presidential election cycle, you would know it. 

    Denial ain't just a river in Egypt. 

  13. Congrats, dusty, you haven't had a bevy of wingnut trolls in a long time.

  14. Holy batshit Dusty…..quit turning over logs…… all sorts a shit is crawling out!  Wowsers…..

  15. Such grace and civility. 

    Of course, I suppose it's my own fault for trying to carry on a conversation with a leftist. 

  16. You nutter rightwing extremists have yet to provide media documentation for anything you have claimed here. Unless and until you do..give it a fucking rest as it's bullshit and conjecture untill you do.
     
    My examples are very easily found on the internet. Google “WTO protests,” Google “molotov cocktails war protests San Francisco” Google “Black Panthers voter intimidation Pennsylvania”   
     
    Here's another you can look into:  
     
     
    In Denver Colorado back in 2008 a Democrat campaign headquarters was absolutely trashed in a very disturbing vandalism spree.    
       
    Turns out the perpetrator was a Democrat campaign worker himself. So, not only have I given examples of left-wing activists commiting vandalism outside WTO conferences and being arrested in possession of Molotov cocktails during anti-war protests, the most significant vandalism attack on a Democrat campaign headquarters in the last Presidential election was commited by a Democrat.    
       
    Not only are leftists more predisposed towards violence, they're not above trashing their own to fake an attack. Kinda like the left-wing labor activists in Germany that burned down the Reichstag.    
       
    All of my examples involve leftists being arrested for violence that you can easily find out more about through research on the internet.    
       
    And you have smears and allegations without evidence or arrests.    
       
    What's the verdict? Are right-wingers better at commiting violence without a trace to prosecute, or are leftists just full of shit?
      
     
    Oh, and I simply love how you two think railing against the left somehow legitimizes what the rightwing nutters have done this week with all the hate and violence. Amazing!  
     
    Really? I'd love to see a reference to an arrest made of a “right-winger nutter” committing violence this week.  That would be amazing to see. No bullshit and conjecture, right?
     
    You're up to bat.

  17. Dusty,

    You're on. Hello? You've been called out.

    The timestamp of your post about “what the rightwing nutters have done this week with all the hate and violence” reads today, March 25th, 2010, 8:14am. So, the “this week” of your post runs from the time the health care bill passed the House of Representatives on Sunday up until this morning.

    You have examples of “right-wing nutter” violence in that span of time to share with the class, yes? Something that isn't “bullshit” or “conjecture?” A real, honest-to-goodness act of violence perpretrated by a right-winger some time between Sunday and your post this morning? Some media documentation that seperates your claim from those made by every other imbecile walking the Earth that calls himself “left-wing?”

    Hello? What?

    Nothing?

    So, are we to surmise, correctly, that you're full of shit?

    Yes. Yes we can.

  18. Ok, this is my blog…and if a nutter wants to make a point..make it…with media documentation..don't fucking tell me to go to google and look it up jackass. You made the fucking claim, not me.

    I have had a good laugh today at all your fuckery nutters…thanks for providing me with that..I do appreciate it! 😛

    Now, go crawl back under the friggin rock you came out from under…or deal with the subject at hand…which is rightwing nutter extremists threatening violence and verbally attacking a man with parkenson's disease.

    I love how you nutters refuse to address the subject..and always ALWAYS pull the..but the leftwing nutjobs do it and/or have done it too!!!

  19. Ok, this is my blog…and if a nutter wants to make a point..make it…with media documentation..don't fucking tell me to go to google and look it up jackass. You made the fucking claim, not me.

    The events of left-wing violence I described are both common knowledge and readily accessible to anyone posssesing even minimal reading comprehension skills, but don't sweat it, Dusty. I'll give you a movie to watch:


    http://www.youtube.com/v/oEL-LDvIMPM” type=”application/x-shockwave-flash” width=”170″ height=”140




    The video above is footage of your fellow leftists smashing windows and vandalizing the shops of Seattle, Washington in protest of the November 30th, 1999 World Trade Organization conference.

    Unfortunately, Wikipedia doesn't have a pop-up book version for leftist illiterates such as yourself, but maybe you could get someone to read you the article on the protests here:

     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WTO_Ministerial_Conference_of_1999_protest_activity

    Note the proud leftist history that the violent activities were planned and sponsored by leftist organizations well before the WTO Conference came to Seattle, and the resulting “success” of over $20 million worth of damage done inspired the creation of your left-wing “indymedia” websites.

    [continued]

  20. Step away from the computer and grab some corporate culture created microwave popcorn, because I've got a triple feature here:
     

    http://www.youtube.com/v/-BemSmTNDxU” type=”application/x-shockwave-flash” width=”170″ height=”140

     
    I hope you enjoyed the triple feature above, where you get to see your fellow leftists, the Black Panthers, intimidating voters with a club, the story of their arrest, and the happy-for-you ending of our pro-terrorist Attorney General dropping the charges against them.
     
    [continued]

  21. I've shown you things from live camera of your fellow leftists engaging in violence and voter intimidation.
     
    I don't have video of the discovery of Molotov cocktails among leftist anti-war protesters in San Francisco, but you can have someone read the account of it to you here:
     
    http://www.ktvu.com/news/2056452/detail.html
     
    and here's a link to a photograph taken of a leftist-lobbed Molotov cocktail exploding on the front steps of the San Francisco Chronicler newspaper during a 2005 anti-war demonstration:
     
    http://zombietime.com/hall_of_shame/IMG_3552.JPG
     
     [continued]

  22. I have had a good laugh today at all your fuckery nutters…thanks for providing me with that..I do appreciate it! 😛   

    No problem Dusty. While I'm not one who personally subscribes to the absurd view that leftists are actually capable of rational thought, I do appreciate the opportunity leftists in the wild provide me to illustrate to the unconvinced just how absurd believing leftists are capable of rational thought actually is. I thank you for so willingly serving as a specimen of imbecility.
     
    Um, have a friend with a dictionary help you there.
     
    Now, go crawl back under the friggin rock you came out from under…or deal with the subject at hand…which is rightwing nutter extremists threatening violence and verbally attacking a man with parkenson's disease. 
     
    I have dealt with the subject at hand. I've asked you, three times now, to provide evidence for the things you claim about alleged right-wing acts of violence that meets your own standard of not being “bullshit” or “conjecture.”

     
    You made the claim, you back it up, remember?
     
    I love how you nutters refuse to address the subject..and always ALWAYS pull the..but the leftwing nutjobs do it and/or have done it too!!!
     
    See, this is where I'm happy I was able to upload video links here, because reading comprehension is obviously not your strong point. I have addressed the subject. I have provided media documentation of the left-wing violence I described, as you asked.
     
    And you have failed thus far to provide ANY evidence for right-wing violence you claim to have occured this week. I'm not making a “two wrongs make a right” argument. I'm not saying “left-wing nutjobs do it too.” I'm saying right-wingers haven't done any violence at all. You've certainly not provided any evidence to the contrary.
     
    Don't give me “blah blah called somebody a name” or “someone littered in a lawn with a funeral casket.”
     
    Give me evidence window-smashing, Molotov cocktail tossing, trigger-happy right-wing acts of destructive violence this week, as you claim exists.
     
    Or admit you're full of shit.
     
    Fairly simple, yes?
     

  23. Those nasty fucking leftists…jesus-fucking-christ what a bunch of losers eh Beamish?

    And what does any of this shit have to so with the phone messages being left for various Democrats or the nooses being faxed to them? How exactly does all the horseshit pulled by those damn leftists make what your nutters are doing now legitimate?

    Does it make it ok? Is that what you need? You need to be able to blame all those fucking leftists, because it just has to be their fault, for the bullshit that has been wrought by your nutter buddies, just because a majority of Congress critters passed a bill without any help from the Rethugs… kiddies?

    Is that the justification kids? Because those damn leftists have done nasty things in the past…it makes it alright for the teabaggers to threaten elected representatives?

    Have you wiped the foam off your mouth,chin and chest yet Beamish?

    Go foam at the mouth somewhere else kids…..you have become boring and pathetic because you can't even own what your fellow nutters are doing. All you can do is whine like a six year old…BUT THE LEFTISTS DO IT TOO!!!! AND THEY DO IT WORSE!!!!

    All the homegrown terrorists from Ruby Ridge to Timothy McVeigh..and lets not forget.. the Branch Davidian's…they all thank you!

    Adios amigos! 😛

  24. Those nasty fucking leftists…jesus-fucking-christ what a bunch of losers eh Beamish?  

    Since Robespierre, Dusty. Since Robespierre.

     And what does any of this shit have to so with the phone messages being left for various Democrats or the nooses being faxed to them? How exactly does all the horseshit pulled by those damn leftists make what your nutters are doing now legitimate?  
     

    Given the historically verifiable and thoroughly documented leftist tendencies towards actual violence, I don't see how you're reaching the conclusion that anonymous voice mails and faxes equate to that. Or are you saying that because voice mails and faxes don't actually hurt anyone or damage property, it must be right-wingers behind them? It's still conjecture and bullshit on your part. I thought you had proof that the right-wing was commiting real acts of violence this week. Were you lying?

    Does it make it ok? Is that what you need? You need to be able to blame all those fucking leftists, because it just has to be their fault, for the bullshit that has been wrought by your nutter buddies, just because a majority of Congress critters passed a bill without any help from the Rethugs… kiddies?  

    What exactly are you blaming on the right-wing? Anonymous voice mails? Faxes? I thought we were talking about violent acts?  I can provide you with several links to left-wing websites and pundits thoroughly enraged with the health care bill signed by Obama because it lacks their desired public option. I can sort of understand why you'd blame harmless voice mails and faxes on the right (because they don't actually cause damage or harm to anyone or anything) and I can understand why you'd want to equate harmless voice mails to window smashing riots and Molotov cocktails from leftists (because leftists just so need to be the most imbecilic people in a room), but given even hardcore leftist opposition to the health care bill as a sop to pharmaceutical and insurance companies and lacking the public option, are we to interpret the gunshots through the campaign oiffice windows of Republican Congressman Eric Cantor, an actual occurance of post health care bill violence, was done by left-wingers?

    {continued]

  25. Is that the justification kids? Because those damn leftists have done nasty things in the past…it makes it alright for the teabaggers to threaten elected representatives?  

    Are you going to get around to supporting the claim that any right-wingers have threatened any elected representatives this week with documentable evidence? Don't give me voice mails and faxes that anybody can send anonymously. We've already seen a Democrat campaign worker trash a Democrat campaign headquarters back in 2008 and get caught after trying to pass blame for it on right-wing boogeymen, So dishonesty and “false flag operations” are not alien to the left. Democrat President Woodrow Wilson ressurected the Ku Klux Klan, and nobody disputes his progressive leftist credentials, Left-wing German labor activist Adolf Hitler and his national socialists burned down the Reichstag and blamed it on rival international socialists. So, anything's possible when it comes to left-wing crazies. But if you've got actual evidence of right-wing violence this week, not bullshit and conjecture, I wish you'd show it. I've asked four times now. 

    Have you wiped the foam off your mouth,chin and chest yet Beamish?  

    Fortunately rabid spittle doesn't travel over the internet, so your seething as you type “right wing nutter” and “Rethug” and “teabagger” has no real chance to even come near me. While I appreciate greatly the considerable support you've given to my demonstration that leftists are incapable of rational thought, as a safety precaution I would ask that you empty your drool cup before it overflows and shorts out your keyboard if you have not already done so,
     
     Go foam at the mouth somewhere else kids…..you have become boring and pathetic because you can't even own what your fellow nutters are doing. All you can do is whine like a six year old…BUT THE LEFTISTS DO IT TOO!!!! AND THEY DO IT WORSE!!!!  
     

    You don't have any evidence for your claims, do you Dusty? You're all bullshit and conjecture. Just another leftist obeying her television. Pretty sad. You could have been the first leftist in history to have learned something.

  26. Odd how such a “tolerant” leftist cannot entertain a viewpoint that wasn't disseminated on MSNBC, isn't it, Beamish? 

     

    Straight from Barack's teleprompter to Dusty's ear. 

     

    I love it too, how we're the hatemongers, yet it seems that the host here cannot string together even a single paragraph without vitriol and contemptuous rudeness. 

     

    But again, that's what one gets when trying to reason with a leftist who hasn't a shred of evidence to back up his or her fallacious argument. 

  27. Hey Brooke…I am not tolerant, especially of extreme rightwing nutters…not by a longshot. But feel free to keep tossing out your little comments ok? Jesus…

    Also, since you fucktards label everything you don't like as liberal..here is a hint..The Big O ain't a liberal..if you talk to a liberal..a true liberal, they will tell you that. I voted for a Democrat for the first time in years in 08….and it was only to make sure McCain and his little dog Palin didn't get in the whitehouse after eight years of spending us into hell by BushCo.

  28. Beamish…thank you so much for playing! :*

  29. Dusty, the centrist voter being sick of this rightwing nuttery is our ticket for decades of Democrats in power! Look out nutters you're gonna fall into that huge hole you're digging! lol

  30. wowsers….. beam-me-up doesn't seem like there is a fully charged AAA  in her remote.

  31. Ah Sue…these nutters are so entertaining! I mean shit…they go all the way back to the beginning of time practically (the crusades were never mentioned btw) to make a point, never once addressing the fuckery committed recently by their co-horts…except to say it's all unfounded….love it!

  32. Call out the riot dogs and fire hoses. Some “right wing nutters” have gathered outside the home of Rep. Russ Carnahan (D – St. Louis, MO) to pray for him and his health. Carnahan is going absolutely bonkers over it.

    Very intimidating stuff, these public prayers for good health. It's as if they tossed a Molotov cocktail right into his living room.

    What a frightened bunch of diaper shitting children you leftists are, quivering over being prayed for.

    Toughen up. Even when the left is actually smashing windows, burning black churches, and shoving Jews into ovens, the right was able to stay focused enough to let you imbeciles discredit yourselves.

    No media documentation of actual right-wing violence this week yet, huh Dusty?

  33. Surely if you had any credible media documention of right-wing violence this week, you'd provide one.

    Is ObamaKare going to treat your hallucinations?

  34. Brooke, you've known me long enough to know how absolutely ridiculous I believe the concept of “rational leftists” actually existing in reality to be. It's right up there with “four-sided triangles” and “good sex with Dr, Westheimer.” It seems definitionally impossible.

    You would think these drones would have something to back up their claims of right-wing violence occuring this week. But they have nothing. Nothing but lame insults that they didn't even come up with by themselves.

    It's to be expected from supporters of a President that is too incompetent to even write the imbecilic things he reads off of a teleprompter. Comedy gold for the next 34 months.

  35. You're very welcome, Dusty. Do be a dear and let me know when actual right-wing violence occurs this week (I'll give you until Saturday, tomorrow). Make sure to post media documentation, not bullshit and conjecture.

    Thanks  :*  

  36. Yes, indeed.The man is helpless without a telepropmter and a team of speechwriters. When he is off prompter, it is painfully obvious.  You could make a drinking game over how many times Pres. Obama says, “Uh,” “Um,” or “Understand this.”

    Of course, you'd be blitzed pretty quickly.

  37. Deleting my responses now?

    How very Stalin of you.

  38. Your skewed history lessons are boring and pathetic.Anyone reading your fuckery would come to the conclusion that all the problems throughout history were caused by people left of center. Crusades anyone?

    You and your ilk lost bitch..suck it up and deal.

    The whole commie thing is old.

  39. Babbling Brooke,

    You have done nothing but cheerlead for the extremist known as Beamish since day one. Anyone that refuses to address the subject at hand gets a boot in the ass here…I merely tolerated you and beamish longer than the standard nutter status quo.

    Going back to the Robespierre is pretty sick..especially on a blog post comment thread. Did you and your little friend actually think no one here knew history? Did it make you both feel superior?

    Now, go find another blog to haunt..you are done here.

  40. I don't know Beamer… I have about as much to do with a WTO anarchist or a Black Panther as you likely do that Freeper James von Brun, or these Christian militia types, but that doesn't mean that von Brun and the militia movement are not the very same far right extremists that DHS was warning us all about. While I believe we ought to do what we can to thwart the more extreme people on “our” side, I don't believe we are collectively guilty when they say or do something legally/morally wrong.

    The correct answer when confronted by violence, vandalism or bigotry is to condemn it, not to point out that there are individuals who don't share your partisan political persuasion–or worse, claim to be a part of a political or social group you oppose–do it too. It doesn't matter what side of the fence the alleged perpetrators are on–or which side of the fence their intended victims are on, either. Wrong is wrong, period.

    Watch, it's easy: The guy who made the video threatening Eric Cantor and his family was a bad, bad man who only serves as a good example of how not to behave toward others. His alleged crimes and moral failings are in no way mitigated by the fact that there is likely a video out there somewhere depicting a very similar threat against a Democrat. Eliminationist rhetoric is morally (& often legally) wrong, regardless of the demographics.

    Simple.

    You really ought to try it.

  41. Repsac3,

    We live in a world where leftist threats consist of vandalism, firebombing with Molotov cocktails, gunshots through windows, and SEIU labor thugs beating people into hospitalization and rightist “threats” consist of alleged anonymous voice mails, faxes, and littering on lawns with a coffin. Quite a stark contrast there that should be made.

    As for Von Brunn and neo-Nazi worship of left-wing labor activist Adolf Hitler, anyone who advocates socialism (national or international) over free market capitalism excludes himself from the right-wing and anchors himself in the left. That is Political Science 101.

    No one is claiming “right-wing violence” is correct or even justifiable. But that's a very narrow category. What is right-wing violence? Dusty hasn't and can't cite any documentable examples of right-wing violence directed at any politicians this past week. She hasn't because she knows her imbecilic post is an epic fail. She can't because no “right-wing violence” has occured.

      

  42. Censorship and deleting posts makes you a loser, Dusty.

  43. //But that's a very narrow category. What is right-wing violence? Dusty hasn't and can't cite any documentable examples of right-wing violence directed at any politicians this past week.//

    this past week?  Wowsers!  The right-wing-bat fuckers took a week off……????

    Scott Roeder
    timothy mcveigh
    Fred Phelps

    ….  gees…. selective fucking memories….. sweet heart…..  and just a quick lesson in ISMS- Nazi-ism is 'right-wing'  Communism is 'Left wing'   Socialsim is what America has had for sixty-fucking years….. Unemployment, social security, medicare… your garbage collection and your kid's soccer league!

  44. I stand by what I wrote, Beamish…

    If one's first response to violence, vandalism or bigotry by individual extremists on “your” own side is to point out that there are individual extremists on the “other” side who also engage in violence, vandalism, and bigotry, or to deny the extremism on your own side of the political spectrum (when there's the slightest thread to grasp at) and play the game of the moral relativist to excuse what you cannot deny, you're not being intellectually honest with anyone, least of all yourself.

    I urge you as a fellow American to just stop digging.

    Von Brun was pretty bad.
    Roeder was pretty bad.
    These militia nuts are pretty bad.

    The fact that we can all name folks who planned or committed acts that most of us would consider worse (Hitler, 911, OK City) doesn't make their alleged/actual crimes any more legal or moral. The same is true of the folks who more'n'likely left those voicemails, shouted those bigoted slogans, or cut that gas line. Just because you can list incidents that were worse, it doesn't make the acts we're actually discussing any less bad.

    And yes, while it is possible that the convoluted conspiracy theories are true, and one/some/all of these acts were committed by liberal provocateurs out to defame good conservatives, Occam's Razor and plain old common sense suggest that that just isn't the case…

    There are nuts in every mix… You'd sound a whole lot less desperate if you'd just admit that some of 'em hang out at Tea Party events and claim to be speaking and acting on behalf of conservative values, and then condemn their bad behavior…

    YMMV…

  45. Since Dusty doesn't have an example of alleged “right-wing violence” occuring since the passage of the health care bill, do you have one?

    I keep hearing about anonymous voice mails and naughty words, but no violence as I understand the term to mean, just as the well documented leftist acts of property destruction, Molotov cocktail slinging and thug attacks.

    Surely if there were an act to point to and a name to name, you would, and then the onus would be on the right to disaasociate from it and condemn it. Then we could get to asking why the left never condemns their Che Guevara and Bill Ayers wannabes.

    But so far, we're to jump to attention over leftists blowing smoke? Is the new health care law going to cover those “injured” by anonymous voice mails?

    Curious, indeed.

  46. No Beemish, I have no concrete acts of violence proven to be committed by individuals on the right in the past week… …but I'm not sure what that proves, given that none of the acts by individuals on the left to which you continue to refer happened in the last week, either… (And given that you insist on comparing one side to the other, shouldn't the terms by which you do so be the same?)

    Anonymous voice mails, shattered windows, bigoted epithets, and a cut gas line are the acts in contention, and while there is no concrete proof (as yet, anyway) that any of them were committed by individuals on the right, common sense says they were, and it takes a real conspiracy theorist to allege otherwise. The simplest, most likely explanation is generally the one that turns out to be correct, and all this theorizing by folks on the right that liberals did any/all of it to themselves to frame innocent conservatives is pretty far out there, though I admit it isn't entirely unheard of… Ashley Todd still springs to mind…

    Aside the cut gas line–which may've resulted in a dangerous, violent explosion–none of them rise to the level of violence… But I think that you're wrong to dismiss them on that basis as though they are therefore not important or worthy of concern. Personally, I believe the onus is on all good Americans to disassociate from and condemn vandalism and bigotry, as well as violence… To the extent that you feel differently, I feel sorry for you and for those whose beliefs you represent.

  47. Repsac3,

    http://www.youtube.com/v/EGBKJopSXOw” type=”application/x-shockwave-flash” width=”170″ height=”140

    Suppose the right wing were to pull of a violent attack on the scale of global warming theory activist Osama Bin Laden's Al Qaeda did on 9/11? Could you see the left coming out and asking for tolerance of and dialogue wiith right-wing groups?

  48. Not good enough, Repsac3. Dusty's post alleges right-wing violence occured this past week. She insists it did.

    The kinds of things Dusty is alleging about the right this past week fit the actual example provided by Obama supporter Norman Leboon's YouTube video death threats towards Rep. Eric Cantor that also included the hallmark consensus eliminationaist anti-Semitism you can find in big name left-wing political theorists like Proudhon, Marx, Engels, Bakunin, Hitler, etc.

    My mentionings of leftists commiting violence past and present only serve to bolster the premise and historical veracity of left-wing predispositions towrds commiting violence.

    Quite frankly, your “common sense says they were, and it takes a real conspiracy theorist to allege otherwise” in blaming the right for acts rather historically out of character for rightists is so much namecalling, or bullshit and conjecture as Dusty would say.

    You're blowing smoke. You want to smear the right with allegations that can't even credibly be proven. It's awful hard to prove the right's responsibility in events that didn't actually happen, isn't it?

  49. No, laissez faire capitalism is right wing, as far right as you can go. Hitler was opposed to all forms of capitalism, which denies him entry into the right on that basis alone. His disgusting race theories were the haute couture of progressive leftist thought at the time. Coercive eugenics has a proud leftist history, from the Tuskegge experiments to the Holocaust. Sorry, keep your trash on your side.    
       
    Socialism is what you want and what Hitler had… and it's all left-wing…    
       
       
           
       
       
       
    Scott Roeder killed one person. Socialism and communism has killed over 200 million.    
       
    Timothy McVeigh was protesting the war in Iraq before it was cool. He was a registered Democrat.    
       
    Fred Phelps has run for Governor of Kansas as a Democrat, and is very much a part of the anti-war inanities of the left.

  50. While we're on the topic, Respac3, where do you stand on Dusty's allegation that the “calls to violence are ringing loud with the help of Palin, Limpballs and Beck”

    In what way have Sarah Palin, “Limpballs” (whoever that is), and Glenn Beck assisted the loud-ringing calls to violence coming from such quarters as Obama supporter Norman Leboon's YouTube threats against Eric Cantor?

  51. Not good enough, Repsac3

    Beemish, my friend, you don't set the rules. You can't hold yourself to a different standard than you do me (or anyone else) and get away with it, or shift the goalposts when you fail to have an answer that suits your chosen meme…

    I can't speak for Dusty… Perhaps she said “violence” but meant “vandalism,” or perhaps to her, smashing windows and cutting gas lines is violence of a kind. Perhaps shouting racial epithets is a kind of mental violence…

    I can't say, but I do know that limiting your sphere of “give a shit” to “violent acts that occurred in the last seven days where there is no shadow of a doubt that the perp was from the part of the political spectrum you oppose” and ignoring common sense as to who committed the vandalism & bigoted acts that did occur during that period, is pretty fuckin' narrow…. And not even being intellectually honest enough to hold yourself to the same standard taboot, reveals you to be the snake oil salesman you are…

    Quite frankly, your “common sense says they were, and it takes a real conspiracy theorist to allege otherwise” in blaming the right for acts rather historically out of character for rightists is so much namecalling, or bullshit and conjecture as Dusty would say.  

    Denial ain't just a river in Egypt with you, obviously… Well, at least you're good enough to admit that lack of common sense… It's a start…

    It's awful hard to prove the right's responsibility in events that didn't actually happen, isn't it?

    Look, if you're saying you didn't see the broken out windows or hear the voicemail messages, all I can say is you ought not discuss current events if you're unwilling to watch a little news, first… These incidents were even reported on Fox, I think…

    Next you'll be claiming that michigan militia (or perhaps Michigan, itself) doesn't really exist…

    Dude, you have to open your eyes, and be willing to see… Since you are unwilling, and prefer instead to cling to some weird Birther/Truther/Deather-style “false flag” theory, there's little anyone can do to convince you of anything. You've chosen your faith, and it's clear that nothing will shake it…

    We'll pray for you…

  52. I don't have the time to find/post quotes, but I do believe folks like them–as well as those on the left who play similar games–serve to coarsen the culture and do lead to more divisiveness, more anger, and yes, the violence, vandalism, and bigotry we've seen… (both in the narrow seven days you're holding me to, and throughout the vast history you permit yourself…)

    Perhaps I'll expand on that later today, when I have the time to give it a more complete answer…

  53. repsac, I admire your patience in continuing to deal with the nutter beamish, however it's a lost cause as he/she/it has obviously gone around the bend. 😉

  54. Repsac3,

    Thnak you for your prayers.

    All of my comments here have been directed at Dusty's premise that acts of violence had occured between the time of the passage of the health care bill and the timestamp of her post on 2/24/2010 at 9:30am. At that time, if she is not overflowing with bullshit and conjecture, had positively identified instances of right-wingers commiting acts of violence or making calls for the same, “with the help of Palin,” etc. I thought she had the goods, so I wanted to see them. Since Dusty could not cite one media documented incident of right-wing violence in that time frame, I began to suspect that Dusty wrote her bizarre post as experimental fiction. She certainly isn't even trying to be taken seriously, thanking us for playing and all. I extended Dusty's deadline for citing a media documented example of right-wing violence that would justify her apparently imbecilic post to this past Sunday, a full week for Dusty to make her case. (In response, she deleted my posts.) As for your allegation of my changing the rules, I merely proceeded to cite past leftist acts of violence and those responsible for them. I could have kept going, but I felt my point well established that the left has been and is currently, at least, a who's who of leaders that advocated and carried out acts of violence themselves or through their devoted followers. It's readily clear to me that profiling political violence would turn up ideological leftists as the prime suspect behind them. The irony you're failing to detect is that Dusty is decrying Palin, Limbaugh, and Beck for somehow helping these nebulous, alleged to exist right-wing “calls to violence” somehow. I can show and have shown in extended remarks the case for any and all of my premises submitted here and the conclusions I have drawn from them. But Dusty can't cite one instance of postively identified right-wing violence that actually is violent, much less show how Palin, Beck, et. al. is helping them. Why is that? Occam's razor, the simple explanation being likely correct, is that Dusty is full of bullshit and conjecture.

    [continued]

  55. Given the ample historical evidence that leftists are at the heart of violent acts an overwhelming majority of the time, even in the United States (see the history of the American labor movement alone), actual acts of violence (throwing dynamite at cops in Haymarket Square or demolishing a Starbuck's in Seattle, etc.) usually rise from the left therefore the left ought be the firt place to look when one occurs.  Given that the only notable act of calling for violence in the wake of the passage of the health care bill thus far has come from an Obama supporter on YouTube against Republican Eric Cantor, I find the likelihood of violence occuring to be left-based, not right-based. Was Dusty arguiing that Sarah Palin makes it easy – actually “helps” leftists indulge in their natural inclination for violence? I remember Sarah Palin being burned in effigy by leftists not all that long ago, so maybe Dusty is truly a master of irony. Of course, no one on the right usually ever accuses leftists toting Molotovs while chanting “no justice, no peace” of inciting revolution (usually because we're laughing ourselves sick at leftist imbecility on parade) but all things made equal, lets hammer the jigsaw puzzle pieces until anonymous voice mails = public burning in effigy on the threat-o-meter.

    Now you, Repsac, claim it's “common sense” to identify the right-wing as reponsible for violent acts this past week. Given the singular positively identified instance of a violent threat this past week arising from a leftist Obama supporter, the left's clear history as exemplars of violent political tendencies, and even the multitudes of outspoken leftists not happy about the absence of a public option in the health care bill, why would you conclude that it “common sense” that identifies the more anonymous, undocumented, and quite likely fabricated instances of violence as coming from right-wing sources and advocates?

    Make it make sense for me, if you can.

  56. You are so full of shit Beamish, your eyes should be brown.

  57. Oh, and you are a liar too. Case in point:

    Anyone with two brain cells to rub together knows McVeigh was a self-identified Libertarian who was registered to vote as a Repube.You aren't worth my time you freak.

  58. Beamish…You stupid little bitch. McVeigh's father was registered as a Democrat. Timmy was registered as a Rethug. 😛

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